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Wednesday, October 06, 2010

Archbishop Nienstedt - Shows He Really Means No Communion to Rainbow Sash Wearers

Did they really think he didn't mean what he said? Or were they simply being defient in order to make it appear like they were victims? I suspect the latter. The comments by People Representing the Sexual Minority (PRiSM) &The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) reps prove that.
Meanwhile Harry Knox better go back & reread the Bible & study the Catholic Catechism. Yes, Jesus offered His Body & Blood for all, on the Cross, in atonement for our sins. Jesus only gave His Body & Blood in Eucharistic form to His Apostles. Knox is taking & twisting Scripture to suit her attempt to undermine it. God's word makes it clear that only those who are worthy are to receive Communion/Eucharist, not everyone who wants to. & especially not those who deny the Catholic faith or are living a sinful life. He also knows full well that it isn't the Archbishop who is playing politics. He & the Rainbow Sashers are the ones playing politics. But why let the truth stand in the way of his agenda since the truth would undermine their political agenda? This isn't about faith, it is about attacking Catholic beliefs that are teachings about God's will, not man's. But then I am also willing to bet that Knox has no idea of what the real theology behind the Eucharist is, let alone believes in the Real presence or that there is such a thing as sin.
This is also another example of the hypocricy of those who scream Catholics are intolerant. They refuse to be tolerant & respect our beliefs. Instead they show hate & complete intolerance towards us. Actually, we are merely the visible symbols of who they are actually attacking, God. They know we stand for the truth & show that what they are doing is sin & will lead them to Hell. But, rather than repent & receive the forgiveness Jesus won for them on the Cross, they prefer to keep on sinning & will end up condemning themselves to Hell.

Gay activists denied communion

About 25 college students and community members at St. John's Abbey in Collegeville, Minn., were denied communion by Twin Cities Roman Catholic Archbishop John C. Nienstedt because they were displaying rainbow buttons and sashes in protest of the church's stand on gay relationships.
The conflict between the archbishop and the group, mostly students from the Catholic St. John's University and the College of St. Benedict, occurred during evening mass Sept. 26.
It came amid news that the state's bishops were mailing 400,000 DVDs to Minnesota Catholics, spelling out church teachings on gay marriage and urging them to support candidates who endorse putting the issue to a vote.
The St. John's action was coordinated by students, including members of People Representing the Sexual Minority (PRiSM), which represents gay and lesbian students and their friends and allies. That Sunday, according to those at the mass, about two dozen worshipers positioned themselves to receive communion from Nienstedt, who was saying his first student mass at the abbey. Some reached for the communion wafer but were denied it. Rather, the archbishop raised his hand in blessing.
The archdiocese long has denied communion to members of the Rainbow Sash Movement, who wear the colors to mass in protest of the church's stance in opposition to homosexual relationships. Its leader, Brian McNeil, said the action at St. John's was not connected to his group.
Archdiocese spokesman Dennis McGrath said the church has told McNeil's group "for years you cannot receive communion if you wear the rainbow sash, because it's a political statement, a sign of protest. Going to the communion rail is the most sacred part of our faith, the eucharist. We don't allow anybody to make political statements or any kind of protest."
St. Benedict theology junior Elizabeth Gleich, PRiSM vice president, said, "We were making a statement during the eucharist, and many have disagreed with that. But when we have no other way of dialoguing with our church, no other way of telling him how we feel, how else to do it than in liturgy?"
She said their complaint is with church hierarchy, not with the colleges.
Another student, senior Andrew Grausam, said he sat behind the group. "It was sad to see the mass politicized like that," Grausam said. "And even though I wholeheartedly disagree with the archbishop on this issue, I was hurt to see my worship become a place of demonstration."
The Human Rights Campaign (HRC), which describes itself as the nation's largest civil rights organization on behalf of gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people, expressed outrage at Nienstedt's actions.
"Jesus didn't play politics with communion," Harry Knox, the HRC's religion and faith program director, said Tuesday in a statement. "He offered his body and blood for everyone."
In the Twin Cities area, at least two efforts have gathered hundreds of DVDs from Catholics opposed to its message. Minneapolis artist Lucinda Naylor estimated Tuesday that she'd gathered about 600. A group called Return the DVD has received about 1,000 in its Burnsville post office box, and also has garnered about $5,000 in donations to help the poor, said organizer Bob Radecki.
The archdiocese has received about 100 DVDs back by mail, McGrath said. The campaign was made possible by anonymous donors and not by church funds, he said.
The U.S. Postal Service will not return bulk-mailed items. Spokesman Pete Nowacki said there's no way of knowing how many have been received and discarded.
Paul Walsh • 612-673-4482 Maria Elena Baca • 612-673-4409


  • At 6/10/10 8:53 AM , Blogger Kindred Spirit said...

    Our Lord did not offer His Body and Blood for everyone: being God, He knew that His Sacrifice would not be efficacious for those who would freely choose to reject Him, thereby rejecting salvation. This loss of souls was a principle cause of His sorrow before His Passion and death. Free will is a tremendous gift of God, and He will not abuse it by compelling our obedience, not even to Him.

  • At 6/10/10 3:48 PM , Blogger Al said...

    "He affirms that he came "to give his life as a ransom for many"; this last term is not restrictive, but contrasts the whole of humanity with the unique person of the redeemer who hands himself over to save us. The Church, following the apostles, teaches that Christ died for all men without exception: "There is not, never has been, and never will be a single human being for whom Christ did not suffer." Catechism of the Catholic Church Par 605

  • At 6/10/10 10:03 PM , Blogger Kindred Spirit said...

    Thank you, Al, for your kind reply. Here is another quote: 622 The redemption won by Christ consists in this, that He came "to give his life as a ransom for many" (Mt 20:28), that is, He "loved [his own] to the end" (Jn 13:1), so that they might be "ransomed from the futile ways inherited from [their] fathers" (I Pt 1:18). Not being a theologian I cannot do more than to quote this other paragraph from the Second edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I believe that Our Lord desires the salvation of all but, since He is God, knows and has always known that not all will be saved. Thank you for letting me respond, and may Almighty God richly bless you.


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