Grazie
I want to express my gatitude for all the prayers, support & encouragement i have gotten here & elsewhere.
I admit it is a bit fustrating to have to deal with something like what happenned to me. But I am NOT going to let it discourage me or silence me either. If anything it has encouraged me TO REDOUBLE MY EFFORTS. If someone is shooting at me, it means that I am standing up for what is right.
"No one can hurt you if you are determined to do only what is right; and blessed are you if you have to suffer for being upright. Have no dread of them; have no fear. Simply proclaim the Lord Christ holy in your hearts, and always have your answer ready for people who ask you the reason for the hope that you have. But give it with courtesy and respect and with a clear conscience, so that those who slander your good behaviour in Christ may be ashamed of their accusations. And if it is the will of God that you should suffer, it is better to suffer for doing right than for doing wrong." 1 Peter 3:13-17
posted by Al @ 12:19 AM
12 Comments:
At 18/6/10 7:19 PM ,
Unknown said...
I am genuinely appalled that this happened to you, whatever the persons cause may be. I hope they are caught and punished, there is no excuse for their behavior.
I find your comment 'If someone is shooting at me, it means that I am standing up for what is right.' interesting on two levels.
Firstly, who are the most prevalent perpetrators of shootings, bombings and physical threats? That'd be the anti-abortionists.
Secondly, given that abortionists and their clients are on the receiving end of these acts on a vastly more numerous number of occasions, this would mean that it is they who are standing up for what is right.
But again, what happened is inexcusable.
At 19/6/10 12:21 AM ,
Al said...
1st of all, let's get the facts right, it is the pro-lifers that are more often than not on the receiving end of the violence, not the pro-aborts. The media intentionally downplays the violence against us & plays up the violence by a few extremists who are not at the heart of the pro-life movement.
You might want to check out http://www.abortionviolence.com/ for the truth about who perpetrates the majority of the violence. & it isn't pro-lifers.
I have been on the receiving end of threats & violence more than once. In fact, I just got told yesterday i deserved what I got because I am standing up defending the unborn peacefully.
& compare how pro-life leaders imediately came out & decrierd the shooting of Tiller to the almost universal silence by abortion industry leaders about the shooting death of pro-life veteran Jim Pouillon last year.
You can continue to spread the slander & libelous claims of the abortion industry if you want. But the truth is totally different.
At 20/6/10 5:33 PM ,
Unknown said...
I prefer to get my information, data and statistics from independent sources thanks.
My estimation from independent sources is that the ratio of violence against pro-abortionists is about the same as that of deaths from full-term deliveries against deaths through abortions; about 9 to 1.
What happened to you is still wrong though.
At 21/6/10 12:06 AM ,
Al said...
If by unbiased you mean the main stream media or the abortion industry they are the ones who are promoting these lies & painting us as the villians rather that the vitims. & trust me when I speak about the media as I can guarentee you I have been treated like I am lying by the local media. But if you want to be complicite in their lies, then you will be the 1 who will have to answer for the blood on your hands as a result.
At 21/6/10 12:59 AM ,
Unknown said...
By independent I mean neither anti-abortion or pro-choice. And not the tabloid media either.
It takes a bit of digging sometimes but there are unbiased sources available.
I have accepted your story and condemned what took place.
I am not complicit in lies and I do not have blood on my hands. Nor do I misrepresent situations.
At 21/6/10 1:03 AM ,
Unknown said...
By independent I mean neither the pro-choice movement or the anti-abortion movement. Nor tabloid media.
It takes a bit of digging sometimes but there are unbiased sources available.
I accept your story and condemn what occurred.
I am not complicit in lies, nor do I have blood on my hands.
At 21/6/10 1:19 AM ,
Al said...
if what you say is true then you are NOT getting it from the Main Stream Media (ABC, CBS, NY Times etc) since they are clearly in the PRO-ABORTION camp.
PS your own bigotry is showing by the use of pro-choice. What type of choice are you for, how your steak is done, the color of your car or abortion?????
At 21/6/10 2:29 AM ,
Unknown said...
Sorry about the double post. I received a failure report.
Exactly Al, I do not trust any of those you mentioned, any more than I do Fox or CNN.
On what basis are you alleging bigotry? Defend your claim!
Yes, all three and more.
At 21/6/10 5:49 AM ,
Al said...
The fact that youn refuse to accept the well documented facts on the website that I refered to. The fact that you use the cop out term pro-choice. Do you support abortion being legal or not?
& what are your alledged trustworthy sources. I gave you mine,, you have not mentioned any sources that I can check out to see if they are unbiased.
All you are doing is echoing the claims made by those who support abortion like the leadership of Planned Parenthood. I am talking from personal experience in many instances. i have seen the violence done against us in the pro-life movement at peaceful gatherings. I have looked into faces of pure hatred towards us.
& I have been told that I deserved what happenned to me last week because I stand up & speak out for the unborn.
I have pro-life friends that have been on the receiving end of death threats.
Do I have to go on? I am not talking from a hypothetical place but the real world of my own experience.
When Tiller was killed last year, every Pro-life leader worth his or her salt decried the murder. Yes a few, like Randall Terry didn't do what they should of but they were the exception, not the rule.
However, when James Pouillon, an elderly pro-life protestor was gunned down in Michagan last year, abortion supporters & leadership were silent & failed to decry his murder. & when NARAL finally did say something, it totally ignored the fact the killer admitted it was because of his pro-life activities.
So please, give me your sources that prove your point or stop claiming that abortionists are usually the victims. Life has shown me otherwise!
At 21/6/10 5:40 PM ,
Unknown said...
It seems rather disingenuous of you to ask if I support abortion being legal. If I am pro-choice of course I am.
I'll accept facts from the website you quoted with a pinch of salt thanks. I thought you mentioned unbiased sites? That's not. You haven't given me any trustworthy sources.
And bigotry is still an inappropriate term as I am not intolerant and I am certainly not irrational. I don't protest outside churches and harass those who wish to enter, nor do I make decisions on the basis of a magic friend in the sky and distort facts and data.
I acknowledge that you and others have faced threats and worse and I repeatedly state that it is wrong and I hope the full force of the law is brought to bear against the perpetrators.
'Life has shown me otherwise!' - that's an objective, evidential position is it? You only have your own personal experiences and anecdotes of your cohorts to base this on.
And while I deplore what happened to James Pouillon, he did have a rather extensive criminal record with associated threatening actions didn't he?
At 22/6/10 12:11 AM ,
Al said...
By the mere fact that you refuse to give me any of your so-called unbiased sources. & what you do quote sounds like it is taken right from the PP & NARAL playbooks, the fact, that, unlike me, you hide behind anonymity thus not being able to be held accountable & the fact that you just slandered James Pouillon who was known as the Peaceful Abortion Sign Guy, this conversation is over. When you have the courage to stand up for what you believe as well as the courage to prove that your so-called sources are "unbiased" then you will be welcome back. In the meantime the 2 comments of yours I just posted will be the last.
At 22/6/10 3:44 AM ,
Al said...
Eric, the fact that you are still hiding your identity caused me to reject your last post.
The fact that, after claiming you get your "information, data and statistics from independent sources" & then using MLive a part of the Main stream Media is also another strike against you.
As for your other so-called independent sources, 1 of them is from MIT. & MIT isn't exactly unbiased or independant either as they do embryonic stem cell reasearch. MIT technology jump-starts human embryonic stem cell work. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2004/celltest.html
& that 1st you mentioned clearly relativistic group. They are clearly biased & anti truth because there is 1 source of truth, Jesus & the Catholic Church is the Church He established that contains the fulness of the truth. I know you can't accept that, but that isn'T my problem.
So please stop the BS that you use unbiased sources. The site i mentuioned fully documents their facts & you know it. You are just pro-abortion, NOT Pro-choice. & you are trying to justify the evil that abortion really is even though deep down, you probably know I'm right & you are wrong.
As I said, I will keep praying for you.
Meanwhile, you can keep rejecting the truth. That is your choice, It is clear that you are sold out to the culture of death. & because you refuse to identify who you really are, I highly suspect you are involved with NARAL, PP or some other abortion promoter & are not as unbiased as you claim either.
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