Why are the Radical Enviromentalists Silent on This?

A few weeks ago I was talking to a friend about the insane claims that are often being made by some wacko environmentalists & esp the wackoist 1 of all, VP Al Gore. Now I have to make it clear we both support sensible environmental responsibility, like recycling, alternate fuels & the like. But some of the junk science that people like Al Gore promote is more in the realms of scie-fi than reality. The topic got to global warming & what the real facts are. My amico mentioned that he had recently heard about the fact that there is global warming occuring on Mars. I brought up a recent bit I had read about the temperature of the sun going up.

We got off onto a bit of humor for a minute & began to wonder if the 2 Mars Rovers were to blame by creating greenhouse gases. Then we got serious. 1st of all, the 2 Rovers do not use gas or any other fuel that creates emmissions. Then I brought up the solar temperature fact. As I said, we both agree on the need for better fuels & reducing harmful emmissions. But, the facts to support the claims being made by the wackos just isn't there.

People like Gore are pushing the Kyoto Accords. There is another piece of junk that will do more to destroy Western economy (what I feel is the real goal) rather than protect the environment. Why do I say that. If the real intention of Kyoto was to prevent pollution, it wouldn't allow 3rd World Countries free reign to pollute in the name of developing their economies. Logic tells me that it would be better to prevent the pollution in the 1st place then destroy the enviroment & clean it up later? The technology is there to help these countries develop their economy without the pollution. This, with the overly ridiculous limitations put on the West are the reason I suspect that the truth is an attempt to destroy Western capitalism. (I may be wrong, but I suspect that if you scratch the surface of these enviro-wackos you will find a Marxist socialist who is still in denial about the failure of communism.)

An honest debate about what is really going on should be done. Unfortunately, much of what is out there is scare tactics. None of which lends itself to rational discussion. Yes, there is warming going on. No we don't know the whole dynamics. Yes, we still should develop alternative fuels & do what we can reasonably to reduce emmisions. But, until the facts are fully examined

At this point I won't go into the well documented hypocracy of Gore & others in not practicing what they preach. Just read Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy by Peter Schweizer for some info about Gore.

Solar Temperature data (caution, this gets a little deep in spots but does have some charts that show the variations over the yrs.)
http://www.john-daly.com/solar.htm

Articles about Mars temperature rising/climate changes:
http://www.mos.org/cst-archive/article/80/9.html
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/011741.php
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/21/mars_dynamic/

GUESS WHAT? Jupiter is also getting warmer:
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/04/21_jupiter.shtml

& Pluto may now only be a dwarf planet, but it is also getting warmer:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html

JunkScience.com's view on global warming:
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

Another article refuting some of the Kyoto claims:
http://www.quantonics.com/A_Kyoto_Accord.html