If the Abortion Industry Had Its Way, This is How Things Would Be in the USA
& if Obama could do it by executive order you can be sure he would.
Of course there have been attempts to come as close as possible to this abortion industry ideal of completely taking away Pro-lifers free speech rights. Some of those laws have been thrown out by the courts, but not all. So there are some limits in some areas as to how sidewalk counselors can, or even if, approach those going into an abortion clinic, limits that don't apply to anyone else elsewhere who may want to approach someone with a handout. & this is simply because the abortion industry finds the truth about what they do objectionable.
The 1st Amendment was intended to protect speech, especially political, that others found objectionable from being silenced. (Note: this was never intended to include libel, slander or such things as yelling fire in a crowded theater.) I am willing to bet that not a single Founding Father saw porn as a form of protected speech, yet these days it is given more protection than the types of speech the amendment was intended to protect.
Also, this was clearly not "stalking" either. But by using that term, this gives more ammo to the pro-aborts to spread the lie that Pro-lifers are only out to cause harm to abortion providers.
Some day, history will look back & admit it was the Pro-lifers who were in the right. & that abortion was just as wrong as slavery or the Holocaust. For now, those of us who know the truth can look to these Austrians as "white martyrs" for the Pro-life cause.
Sidewalk counseling effectively criminalized in Austria after pro-life appeal rejected;
GRAZ, Austria, November 4, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A judge in Graz has rejected an appeal made by four members of an Austria pro-life group against their conviction and resulting fines for publicly witnessing to the value of human life in front of an abortion facility in Graz last April. The rejection effectively criminalizes sidewalk counseling in front of Austrian abortion mills.
The pro-lifers, including Dietmar Fischer, the head of the Austrian branch of Human Life International (HLI) were convicted last July of “stalking” the resident abortionist and given fines totaling €8490 EUR, or about $12,000 USD.
HLI Austria Director Dietmar Fischer
Caroline List, the judge presiding over the appeals synod, said that sidewalk counseling on public ground amounted to a “witch hunt” against the abortion doctor, Johannes Hanfstingl, reported Gloria.tv.
The judge reportedly rejected the appeal despite the testimony from the witnesses of the prosecution that no one had actually been accosted by members of the pro-life group. One witness did testify that she had once been directly but “politely” approached by the group.
Judge List did not allow the Pro-life group to make a further appeal.
Fischer, a 2010 recipient of the Cardinal von Galen Award for outstanding service in defence of innocent human life, said he was “horrified” by the judge’s verdict, calling it a “scandal and purely political.”
“It was mandated by the minister of Justice. Judge Caroline List admitted that her verdict was about a more ample [larger] legal question. It is about whether Pro-lifers will be able to stand in front of clinics and to offer help or not.”
“The verdict of Judge Caroline List intends to stop this,” said Fischer as he pointed to the fact that the Austrian branch of Human Life International has saved the lives of more than 15,000 children.
The pro-life group still has the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France as its last resort for justice. Gloria.tv has learned that the group plans on pursuing this option.
Related Story: Radical Austrian judge convicts pro-life leader and sidewalk counselors of ‘stalking’
See also: Freedom of Expression Tolerated Unless It’s Pro-Life Speech
Of course there have been attempts to come as close as possible to this abortion industry ideal of completely taking away Pro-lifers free speech rights. Some of those laws have been thrown out by the courts, but not all. So there are some limits in some areas as to how sidewalk counselors can, or even if, approach those going into an abortion clinic, limits that don't apply to anyone else elsewhere who may want to approach someone with a handout. & this is simply because the abortion industry finds the truth about what they do objectionable.
The 1st Amendment was intended to protect speech, especially political, that others found objectionable from being silenced. (Note: this was never intended to include libel, slander or such things as yelling fire in a crowded theater.) I am willing to bet that not a single Founding Father saw porn as a form of protected speech, yet these days it is given more protection than the types of speech the amendment was intended to protect.
Also, this was clearly not "stalking" either. But by using that term, this gives more ammo to the pro-aborts to spread the lie that Pro-lifers are only out to cause harm to abortion providers.
Some day, history will look back & admit it was the Pro-lifers who were in the right. & that abortion was just as wrong as slavery or the Holocaust. For now, those of us who know the truth can look to these Austrians as "white martyrs" for the Pro-life cause.
Sidewalk counseling effectively criminalized in Austria after pro-life appeal rejected;
GRAZ, Austria, November 4, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A judge in Graz has rejected an appeal made by four members of an Austria pro-life group against their conviction and resulting fines for publicly witnessing to the value of human life in front of an abortion facility in Graz last April. The rejection effectively criminalizes sidewalk counseling in front of Austrian abortion mills.
The pro-lifers, including Dietmar Fischer, the head of the Austrian branch of Human Life International (HLI) were convicted last July of “stalking” the resident abortionist and given fines totaling €8490 EUR, or about $12,000 USD.
HLI Austria Director Dietmar Fischer
Caroline List, the judge presiding over the appeals synod, said that sidewalk counseling on public ground amounted to a “witch hunt” against the abortion doctor, Johannes Hanfstingl, reported Gloria.tv.
The judge reportedly rejected the appeal despite the testimony from the witnesses of the prosecution that no one had actually been accosted by members of the pro-life group. One witness did testify that she had once been directly but “politely” approached by the group.
Judge List did not allow the Pro-life group to make a further appeal.
Fischer, a 2010 recipient of the Cardinal von Galen Award for outstanding service in defence of innocent human life, said he was “horrified” by the judge’s verdict, calling it a “scandal and purely political.”
“It was mandated by the minister of Justice. Judge Caroline List admitted that her verdict was about a more ample [larger] legal question. It is about whether Pro-lifers will be able to stand in front of clinics and to offer help or not.”
“The verdict of Judge Caroline List intends to stop this,” said Fischer as he pointed to the fact that the Austrian branch of Human Life International has saved the lives of more than 15,000 children.
The pro-life group still has the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, France as its last resort for justice. Gloria.tv has learned that the group plans on pursuing this option.
Related Story: Radical Austrian judge convicts pro-life leader and sidewalk counselors of ‘stalking’
See also: Freedom of Expression Tolerated Unless It’s Pro-Life Speech
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